Time Slip/Travel Paranormal Experience

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By Alastar Packer

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Yesteryear and the Paranormal

The incident described in this article is about what I believe may have been a paranormal or preternatural time slip/time travel occurrence that happened as a young teenager.

In the early seventies my family would often visit an aunt and uncle who owned and operated a motel-restaurant several miles south of Interstate 85 in Jackson County, Georgia.

A few years ago as I traveled down the interstate towards Atlanta's airport to pick-up someone coming in from Germany, I decided to make a quick detour and ride by the old motel which was some miles north of the small town of Commerce.

It turned into a frustrating side-trip as the motel was gone and the extensive wild wheat fields and copses of trees remembered from childhood were now swallowed up by strip malls and fast food establishments. I finally had to stop and ask someone where the place used to be.

There have been six incidents in my life that could be considered paranormal or supernatural. Two of them happened in childhood- this story being one of those- and the other four took place during a six year period in my thirties. Four of these incidents have already been written about on the site here.

For the longest time the only people I discussed any of this with were relations or friends. When I joined the wonderful community at HubPages though, I sensed the time had come to write them down and share with anyone interested. It was a great pleasure to see the response and hear about others' experiences with the unusual or paranormal.

Popular Culture and Interest

As a little boy in the sixties one of the great t.v. shows watched from those years was Irwin Allen's "The Time Tunnel." The premise of the series-which ran for one season on the ABC network- was a top secret project known as Tic-Toc located in an underground base in Arizona.

It mostly concerned two scientists' entering a spiraling constructed time tunnel and then going forward or backward in time. The show may have been prescient and certainly put many a young mind to pondering on the possibilities.

If we go back in time a bit ourselves we can see such literary classics on the subject like A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthurs Court by Mark Twain, A Christmas Carol by Charles Dickens, and of course, The Time Machine by H.G. Wells.

More recent books and movies in the timeslip/travel genre include the Star Trek and Back to the Future series of films and Steven Kings novella The Langoliers. The list of scientists' - past and present- involved with the subject is also a very lengthy one.

The point being that despite the phenomena known as Time Slip/Travel causing much contention between believers and doubters, the subject has been around and fascinated the public and some of the world's greatest thinkers for a long time.

I'm far from being any kind of expert in the physics of time slips/travel, a detailed explanation on how they could happen is readily available in many popular books and on the internet.

However, it should be stated that there is some good evidence time slips/travel particularly occur on certain intersections of an earth grid, the Bermuda Triangle being one of the better known of these vortex spots.

All in the Family- Black-Haired Specter and Time Slip/Travel

Before we start with what may or may not have been my personal experience with a timeslip, lets look at one intriguing fact and then a sister's reluctantly told story of her own one time paranormal encounter.

I've often read or seen insider videos that seem to suggest people with Celtic or Native American blood are more likely to pick up on extraordinary phenomena. Whether this has to do with DNA or something else no one seems to know for sure.

My sister and self are of German and British Isles heritage which should include some Celtic stock. A great- grandmother also had some Native American blood-lines. Obviously, if this is true, then a combination of the two, in varying degrees, would be the most receptive of all to the paranormal or supernatural.

Ann is a pragmatic and down to earth woman, not given to flights of fancy or falsehoods. She was rather hesitant to tell her story as the subject of one of my paranormal events came up around a warming fire in her house one winter.

It all began when a previous husband's grandfather passed away. A day or so before the funeral Ann walked into her den one afternoon only to be met with the startling sight of a middle-aged woman stretched out on her couch, staring up at her with dark eyes.

This wasn't any ordinary lady but one with stringy, unwashed looking, long black hair. Stunned, Ann stood there in amazement for some time as the figure slowly vanished in front of her.

This wasn't to be the only appearance of this specter. For the next three or four nights running the eerie apparition came to Ann's side of the bed, hung on to the bed post, and just stared at her.

She said the figure had an old fashioned kind of dress on and after a while would seem to float away towards the bedroom door or wall. After the three or four nights she stopped appearing and Ann says she's sure it had something to do with her ex- husband's deceased grandfather.

Her spouse, whom she told of the visits at the time, had no clue about the specter's identity either but felt the same as Ann concerning the connection to his grandfather.

Astoundingly, Hubber Seeker7 made the insightful comment that the woman and family situation had all the earmarks of what is known as a Scottish/Irish Banshee.

As mentioned previously in the article I would often visit the aunt and uncle's place as a young teenager. Other than watching programs like The Flip Wilson Show in the lobby or swimming in the tiny pool there wasn't much to keep a young boy occupied at the motel.

I'd recently been given a .22 rifle and 20 gauge shot-gun which was a common thing for a boy to receive around twelve or thirteen back then. In front of the motel and across the highway were grass and wild wheat fields, interspersed with patches of trees, that went back for many miles. I often walked those fields trying to stir up rabbits to hunt or just think on things as young boys are wont to do.

One day while returning through those fields from a fruitless hunt, I suddenly felt all tensed up and a bit light-headed. It was a sunny day and it should be noted that as far as I knew back then there weren't any buildings, roads, or homes anywhere in those expansive meadows.

Within a few seconds of the tense feeling there suddenly appeared to my right an old cabin type looking house. There were also several small, nearly naked, African-American children squealing and chasing each other in front of the antiquated looking place.

But what caught my eye more than anything was an attractive young woman sitting on a log who was closest to me as I passed. I took her as the childrens' mother. She turned and smiled at me very warmly; and what struck me then and even more so later was what she was wearing.

The young woman had on a turban type head wrap and a distinctly old timey looking dress that went to her feet and came down to her wrists. The whole scene and feel was just completely out of place with anything I was familiar with. Returning the smile and then passing by very quickly the tenseness and strange feeling soon went away.

At some point, maybe the next day, maybe several days later when I was back in those fields, although not specifically looking for the cabin, it was no where in sight which puzzled me a little. I'll be the first to admit the whole thing may have been nothing, but still, the experience was very strange and never forgotten.

For further reading on the subject the writer highly recommends Nell Rose's The Liverpool Time Slips The True Story of Mysterious Occurrences in Bold Street and JamaGenee's The Ghost Train of Highland Park.

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Alastar Packer Hub Author 3 days ago

So good to see you mention your encounter, or should i say communion, with the ' Lady in White' Vincent. The difference between the two is yours was unquestionably a specter type apparition and mine was solid, as if they and the cabin were really there, and may well have been or not, just don't know for sure. There is much speculation about just exactly where the' mind' really resides, inside the skull or out-side somewhere else. The materialists' are of course correct when they posit that nothing can happen without a biological function- for example, they point out that if the mind were out-side the body wouldn't it take over during surgical anesthesia or something similar. That's a strong argument but there are other possibilities- it would take too long to go into all right now, perhaps we can talk further on this later on. Thank you brother Vincent, take care.

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Vincent Moore Level 6 Commenter 3 days ago

I have not had the opportunity that I know of to slip travel, however as you know I recounted a meeting on a Kentucky back road a Lady In White. This is simply amazing that you actually had slipped into another time period. Like being on a time machine travel.

I bet you must have been stunned for some time after you left this apparition? Amazing to that they knew you were there as she smiled directly at you. Simply wow my friend, I wish I had that experience as well.

I must admit some of my dreams I've had developed into expressive poetry. I wonder if I slip into another dimension when I sleep? Great story, voted Up and awesome.

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Alastar Packer Hub Author 3 days ago

Haha, yes Jama, those comments do go frustratingly "poof" on occasion. And yes and yes again on the embedded objects. That fact holds the key to entering other dimensions and such. The tree limb, for instance, reaches a certain velocity and flips over from time space to space time or vice-versa and whamo- the seeming impossible happens. According to some researchers and whistle-blowers Jama, we may not have to "wait" for the realization to come to pass either. I don't know but certainly wouldn't be surprised if so.

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Alastar Packer Hub Author 3 days ago

Hi there moonlake, good to hear from you, thanks for commenting. The Banshee looking woman was hanging on the bedpost, eh. Same thing with my sister. She said the entity never spoke just bored a hole through her with staring. Whatever it was, a dream or other-wise, it obviously made a very deep impression on your psyche; and if it was that frightening to you i'm glad she or the nightmares never returned.

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JamaGenee Level 8 Commenter 4 days ago

phoenix, babies being sucked up in a funnel and then found totally unharmed is something totally different. That's just PURE LUCK! lol!

I am, however, still pondering the physics at work during the "big" earthquake (of three tremors) last fall, a 5.6 if memory serves, where it was obvious the ground under my duplex was getting quite a shake for almost 60 seconds - a long time for a tremor in OK - and the ONLY thing that moved inside was one lampshade. I watched it swing back and forth, back and forth, waiting for knickknacks and such on shelves to hit the floor, or at least slide around, but they never did! NOTHING moved (except the lampshade). Glassware in the kitchen cabinets didn't even rattle. Very weird.

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phoenix2327 Level 4 Commenter 4 days ago

JamaGenee, I think L. Frank Baum already covered possibility when he wrote' The Wizard of Oz.' lol

I didn't know that about tornadoes. Do you think that maybe that's what happens when you hear stories of babies being sucked up a twister and then found totally unharmed?

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JamaGenee Level 8 Commenter 4 days ago

(Alastar, if this turns out to be a duplicate comment, just delete it! I wrote one, hit "submit" and POOF! it apparently went into a parallel dimension!)

PBS recently aired a documentary on tornadoes that said that the energy inside a vortex totally changes - albeit temporarily - the molecular makeup of objects in its path. That's how a straw can go through a steel beam or (my fave!) a sheet of paper can slice halfway through a tree limb without a wrinkle. If THAT can happen, I don't see why people, under the "right" conditions, can't slip through a time portal (and back again). Someday perhaps we can all do it at will. Wouldn't that be FUN??? ;D

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moonlake Level 7 Commenter 4 days ago

I once saw what I thought was a Banshee. She was on the side of my bed scared the me almost to death. She was gone fast and I have never seen her again. I told my husband about her in the morning and he was wondering why she was here. I worried all day that she came for some terrible reason but nothing ever happened. It was very likely just a dream.

Great Hub.

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Alastar Packer Hub Author 4 days ago

Well hi there bluesgirl, you look to have your arms full with the two sweet looking doggies there lol. If the paranormal is an interest then you've come to the right place, plenty on this site concerning the topic. And thank you for checking this one and commenting. Welcome to HPs bluesgirl, we can be followers if you want.:)

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bluesgirl3636 4 days ago

Interesting. I just started here. The paranormal has always been of interest to me.

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Alastar Packer Hub Author 5 days ago

Jama if you look at things like 'string theory' that seems to suggest parallel dimensions and such then indeed we could be sharing the same space. The evidence and first person experiences say to me technologically advanced intelligence's can cross over directly or perhaps through something like a space-time portal. Why do tree limbs for instance that get caught in the vortexes of powerful tornadoes become embedded in solid steel structures on occasion- because they flip over from time space to space time or vice-versa, in their velocities reached according to one theory. Your not off base and thats probably a good analogy with the forks. Just a laymen here with the physics but the science books are certainly being rewritten somewhere with all this.

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Alastar Packer Hub Author 6 days ago

One of the perks of living on the "little island" is to do what you enjoy with the exploring phoenix. The State i live in has the same sq mileage as England and probably has as many strange and ghostly goings on as there. The difference is over here something say, 200 or 300 years is really old where its nothing compared to where you get to roam and discover. Glad of it for you though and maybe you could write about some of those excursions sometime.

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JamaGenee Level 8 Commenter 6 days ago

Just noticed CMHypno's comment about parallel universes. A subject as intriguing as time slips! However, as I understand it, the time frame is the same in both universes, only the events experienced by the people who occupy them are different. Think "forks in Life's road". A parallel universe is the "other" fork...the one we always wonder about because we didn't take it. Am I totally off-base?

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phoenix2327 Level 4 Commenter 6 days ago

I adore exploring this 'little island'. There is so much history here it's no wonder we are awash in spirits and other paranormal phenomena.

One of the first things I do when I'm in a new place is see if they do Ghost Walks. The guides are not only knowledgeable but entertaining. I usually go back to these places so I can visit at my leisure. Can't wait to head back to St. Ives, Cornwall and do some more exploring.

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Alastar Packer Hub Author 6 days ago

Ha Ha JamaGenee, most of my roots are from the "little island" as well but dare say i've only been through there once. Scotland is definitely on the travel agenda for someday. Great Britain is certainly a ghostly castle hunters dream spot(France is top heavy with them too as you probably know); and unexpected hotel visits from specters of the twilight zone are either most welcome or very dreaded!

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JamaGenee Level 8 Commenter 6 days ago

Alastar, I'm ever amazed at how much history your "little island" (and the country of my roots) holds! Not at all surprised a lot of that history reappears in ghostly form on a regular basis. Considering how many rulers it's had and how many were overthrown, no surprise, either, those who weren't satisfied with the outcome should still be wandering around. I just prefer they don't wander through my hotel room in the wee hours! ;D

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Alastar Packer Hub Author 6 days ago

Veedy intrusting indeed, and no surprise York, England is one very haunted city considering how very old it is. Was just perusing something last night about Tostig and his brother King Harold having a little spat near there in 1066. Perhaps if the bros had made up William the Conqueror may not have been so fortunate several days later at Hastings. And yes JamaGenee, we've enough ghosts over here to keep us busy, Europe should be enjoyed with other past-times at the witching hour lol!

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JamaGenee Level 8 Commenter 6 days ago

Had to go and google the Legendary Legionnaires of York. Veddy intrusting! According to York websites, however, it's the most haunted city in England. Seems every "good" hotel there has a resident ghost (or two or four). I love a good haunting as much as the next person, but prefer my nights in a foreign city to be ghost-free, so York would have to be a day-trip from somewhere else!

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Alastar Packer Hub Author 6 days ago

Hello there phoenix, its good to see your thoughts on here. As far as being freaked-out back then it wasn't something that was in any way scary just very odd and unusual. As a young boy there was no idea about anything like timeslips in my knowledge of course, there was no context to put it in except the feeling of something out of the ordinary. phoenix thank you for the votes and extra info on the Roman soldiers. That's right, they were at the exact height of the old Roman road. Fascinating case and certainly one of the best proofs of the topic here.

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phoenix2327 Level 4 Commenter 7 days ago

Hello Alastar. Just popped over from JamaGenee's hub about her timeslip experience. This is a fascinating subject and I've enjoyed reading about your experiences. It doesn't sound like you freaked out when these events happened. I guess somewhere deep down, this doesn't seem strange to you.

Incidentally, the incident of the young plumber who saw the Legendary Legionnaires while installing a central heating system took place at the Treasure's House in York, UK. The Romans appeared to be walking on their knees because they and their horses were walking along an old Roman road, the Via Decumana, which had been buried 15 inches below the surface.

The panic-stricken boy raced upstairs where the curator remarked, "You've seen the Roman soldiers, haven't you?" Clearly this was not a new experience for the curator.

Voted up, interesting and awesome.

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Alastar Packer Hub Author 10 days ago

Capital JamaG! Can't wait to read it; and we'll just put a link to it on here as well!

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JamaGenee Level 8 Commenter 10 days ago

Alastar, my hub about my experience with the "ghost train", which I now believe was really a time slip, is almost finished. It will, of course, have a link to this hub! ;D

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Alastar Packer Hub Author 10 days ago

Thank you Beth and there you go with the DNA. Wish i could remember the name of a man that came out about being employed by, ahem, the PTB, in Vietnam and elsewhere. He was 50% Irish and 50% Native American- really convincing what he revealed and talked about. And yes, time travel would be fine if you could return and have a protective shield around you while time tripping lol. Hey, you ought to consider writing some on your magnetic attractions!

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Beth Godwin 10 days ago

Hi Alastair, another great story, I carry Celtic and Native American Indian DNA so maybe that explains why I am a paranormal magnet. If anything weird ever happens it will happen to me. Time travel would be great as long as I could return at will. lol

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Alastar Packer Hub Author 2 weeks ago

JamaGenee, with the proliferation of cable shows on the paranormal and just a general change in the zeitgeist, one could say with confidence the worm has turned on these matters. A great many of us will look forward to reading about the timeslip event. Be over your way on the morrow JamaG!

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JamaGenee Level 8 Commenter 2 weeks ago

Follow away! Considering the number of comments from other hubbers who don't find time slips and other paranormal experiences "weird" or unbelievable, I'm screwing up the courage to write about what's possibly another time slip only a few blocks from my friend's house on the ley line intersection. ;D

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Alastar Packer Hub Author 2 weeks ago

Appreciate you coming over from Nell and telling us your story on here JamaGenee. Soon as I saw ley lines went uh huh, yep- timeslips often occur on them, they sure do. What you saw reminds me of the famous case in England where a man saw Roman Soldiers passing through a wall in his basement. What he didn't know at the time was that spot was exactly where an old Roman road used to be.

As far as your heritage goes, there you go with a bit of the Celtic. Not surprising the second sight passed down from your Swedish Grans either, as we now know many traits and abilities in that area often skip a generation. The acclaimed psychic from the 19th century D.D.Home claimed his powers came down from a Scottish Grandmother. Hey JamaGenee, thanks for the votes and great comment, love to be a follower of yours if you want.

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JamaGenee Level 8 Commenter 2 weeks ago

I came over here from Nell's time slip hub. Until I read her hub, I'd never heard of time slips, but am learning they must be rather common. In fact, going on the premise that seeing one "person" appear out of nowhere is probably a ghost but seeing several people with inanimate objects (like a cabin) is a time slip, I believed I witnessed the latter at least once.

I was sitting at the end of a friend's kitchen table watching him peel potatoes at the sink on the other side of the room. The door to the laundry room was about 8 feet to his left, and I could see into that room from where I was sitting. It should be mentioned his little house, albeit in an older, big city neighborhood, was believed to have been built where two ley lines cross. Historically, the entire area was neutral ground for several Indian tribes before the whites came. I happened to be sitting on the exact spot where the ley lines crossed. Suddenly, in the doorway to the laundry room, a trapper wearing buckskin and a Daniel Boone cap and an Indian in a loin cloth appeared on either side of a rack used for drying and stretching animal skins. They appeared to be discussing the progress of the skin in the rack, which was made of tree branches lashed together with strips of leather at the corners. The "vision" (for lack of a better word) lasted 10-20 seconds, and since the vignette was wider than the door, the part of the walls on either side that'd normally be there, weren't. My friend was so engrossed in the potato peeling that he didn't see it. It didn't frighten me. I only wish it'd lasted longer!

btw, I've been psychic and all that entails since I was 15 or so. I have 2 drops of Irish blood and 2 drops Scottish...the rest is two-thirds English, a third German and a third Swedish. It's believed I inherited my psychic talents from my Swedish grandmother.

Great hub, Alastar! Voted up and awesome! ;D

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Alastar Packer Hub Author 3 weeks ago

The phenomena of time-slips is a most fascinating subject. As far as time travel goes one might ask how do objects caught up in the vortex of super strong tornadoes become embedded in solid steel structures on occasion. Solve that question and your probably close to solving the others. Thanks for the comment xstatic, hope you find some more of these paranormal hubs interesting.

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xstatic Level 5 Commenter 3 weeks ago

Very interesting Hub about a fascinating subject. I will read more. It does tend to give one chills.

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Alastar Packer Hub Author 3 weeks ago

That is an excellent analogy Dallas. And if the surface is broken through by the perceiver, then the depths become the unvisitable; until the next dive that is. Time is relative, not absolute. The dimensions do interact at times it would seem. Thank you for the great comment Dallas, I'll soon be over to read an article and see what you have on your book.

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dallas93444 Level 6 Commenter 3 weeks ago

Great article! My book refers to "Hidden in plain sight." Perhaps there is more than our perceived world existing? Perhaps an analogy of a looking up through the surface of water in seeing trees, but unable to exist in that dimension...

Time may be flexible... as is gravity: all relative.

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Alastar Packer Hub Author 3 weeks ago

xstatic, couldn't agree with you more about the strange things in this world. You've also set me to pondering abit: if our time here with our questing minds and spirits was bereft of mysteries, new challenges, and new ways of looking at things, it would be a fairly boring and stagnant existence wouldn't it. Thanks for the read and comment xstatic.

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xstatic Level 5 Commenter 3 weeks ago

Really interesting story here. There are so many strange things in this world.

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Alastar Packer Hub Author 3 weeks ago

A blast through the past, eh Richie. If you've had nightmares that have haunted you for years then that sounds like it could grow into a form of PTSD. Especially having that terrifying demonic face at the supermarket one for so long. I'm no psychologist but that sounds like something more than just the subconscious. As a matter of fact it reminds of something that happened one time here that was not a dream or sleep paralysis despite occurring in light sleep. Rich my friend, thanks for sharing that on here; its only by doing so that maybe together folks that have these kind of things happen can hope to find answers as to who, what, and why.

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Richawriter Level 4 Commenter 3 weeks ago

Hey Alastar!

What a read that was. I shall be reading it a few more times, memorizing it, and then writing it from memory so that I may soak up some of your awesome writing style! Nah, just kidding. You do have a thoroughly interesting style though.

Unfortunately I have never encountered anything supernatural while awake. I have had some horrific nightmares though and some terrifying hallucinations that haunted me for years afterwards.

There was one nightmare in particular that plagued me for years from around 8 years old to 16. It would start with me in the deserted aisle of a supermarket pushing an empty shopping trolley and the place was utterly empty and silent, save for the shelves of groceries. Then it would kind of skip and I would be standing outside the supermarket sliding doors in a completely pitch black corridor, the only light coming from the supermarket. Then there would be a low rumbling noise from further up the corridor and upon looking, i'd see this huge ball rolling towards me filling the entire corridor, much like the one from the Indiana Jones movie (raiders of the lost ark?). I would run away from it, deeper into the darkness until I reached this dead-end with only a corner to squeeze into as far as I possibly could. I would watch the ball approaching, terrified out of my wits. When it reached my position, horrifyingly, it would become a leering face, eyes wide, teeth clenched. The face would press onto my own and push, all the time I couldn't close my eyes, just stare into those horrible eyes as it crushed me against the wall. I would wake up sweating and crying and the face would still be there in my mind, mocking and reminding me of its presence. This dream would reoccur often when I was younger, sometimes 2 or 3 days in a row and sometimes once or twice a month. Even as a teenager I had it a few times. Spookily, sometimes during the day as long as the nightmare continued, the face would suddenly flash into my mind's eye, stunning me for a second and causing the hairs on my neck to stand on end.

Perhaps just the nightmares of a highly imaginative child, or maybe a spirit, who knows. Thank god that face is gone though. It was a truly frightening face to behold, all consuming, mocking, sneering, hungry.

I may turn it into a story, come to think of it. May scare a few people. haha

Thanks for that great story Alastar!

Peace. :)

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Alastar Packer Hub Author 4 weeks ago

Hi there dmop. Good to be followers now. Your most welcome on the sharing; just mentioned to someone here how the popular culture has really opened things up for people and their unusual supernormal occurrences. Yes, one could say the coin has flipped; but not the majority of experiencers on the subject. Look forward to reading about yours dmop.

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Alastar Packer Hub Author 4 weeks ago

What a super fine comment CR, thank you bro. Lets see, so you recently found out your Welsh and some Irish, yep, your Celtic alright. This Packer clan is Scotch-Irish which I believe is mostly lowland Scot which suppose has some Celtic. That is fascinating and amazing with the two at your window. How did the telepathy, the info, come about, how did it happen? CR, from what you've written, it looks more like you had the "gift" -although not to you- and these specters picked up on you as receptive. Maybe something else but that's my intuition and what knowledge I have on it. Thank you so much for posting this, and your so right, these events happen to many others besides our selves. I'm going to have a researcher friend take a look at the experience before too long and will let you know their thoughts.

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dmop Level 5 Commenter 4 weeks ago

This is a very interesting story, I have had a few incidents that were similar to what happened to you. I may write about it at some point when i get some free time. Thanks for sharing your experience, and have a great day.

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Alastar Packer Hub Author 4 weeks ago

Isn't it amazing molometer; with the advent of the scientific revolution events such as this one were slowly relegated to the realms of pure superstition. But most of those bright minds didn't know what we know now. Indeed, science itself is coming forward with answers to how may paranormal events could at least happen. The Banshee, yes; after learning of my sister's experience and already believing that the stories and legends of such like must have some basis in fact, well, case closed for me on the funeral specter Banshee. Michael my friend, thanks a mil for the awesome comment, votes and share.

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CR Rookwood Level 4 Commenter 4 weeks ago

Wow. Another fascinating Hub, Alastar. Voted up all across!

I appreciated you mentioning Celtic and Native American ancestry being possibly related to seeing these things. I've had so many strange experiences, and while I have no Native American blood (that I know of), I found out a few years ago that I am mostly Welsh, with some Irish, which is not what I thought, but that's my ancestry. Both have their own Celtic languages so I guess they're Celtic.

Anyway I had a very similar experience a year or two after we moved into this house in Michigan. I woke up and could see two people staring in the front windows. One was a small girl, about 5 or 6, her name was Agnes. She was dressed in 40s or 50s clothes, and a yellow raincoat. She was hit by a bus and died.

Next to her was a black man in his mid to late 40s or early 50s, wearing a simple muslin shirt (kind of off white) and darker pants in a woven fabric with tall boots. His name was Benjamin Oldman and I got his birth and death years also--1767 to 1812. He was up here hunting for furs with some French voyageurs and died when a musket ball took his left arm off and he bled out. I could see the gun, I knew what the bullet looked like--it was a bit larger than a big marble, bigger than a modern bullet. The front part of the gun was very long.

Why did this info come with the sight of these two? They just stared at me, then faded away. I told my spouse who said that that wasn't even possible as no slaves could have been this far north that early--even white people didn't come here until the mid 1800s.

I said, well, one came here!

Honestly it's freaky to have stuff like this happen ever, let alone more than once. I've had to come to terms with it as just a thing that happens to me. I am not insane. I'm just an ordinary person. I've raised kids, worked all my life, so I'm hardly some kind of nut job.

Was it a time slip? It reminds me of your woman in the turban. I just don't know. But I do think time is not what we think it is. The linear concept of time--it's an artifact of our perceptual faculties. It isn't real, it's a construct. So who knows.

I'll be thinking about this hub a long time. Thanks for the validation. I means a lot, seriously.

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molometer Level 8 Commenter 4 weeks ago

Hi Alastar,

As a child we were always made aware of the banshee when we stayed with grandparents in Ireland.

They say if you hear one wailing a death will follow.

This hub is a series of spooky events that cannot be explained in everyday terms.

There are things that we just do not know.

The old house may indeed have been a time slip moment. There are theories of parallel universes who knows?

What I do know is this, it is another great hub and the storyteller kept me gripped, again. Well done my friend.

Voted up and 4/5 buttons sharing.

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Alastar Packer Hub Author 6 weeks ago

Appreciate the mystery Da Vinci link Lilleyth. Hmmmm!

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Lilleyth Level 5 Commenter 6 weeks ago

Here is the Youtube link to the H2 program about da Vinci and the cave: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dd2LIGA3MB4&feature

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Very happy your catching up included this one Lilleyth. Wow, that Da Vinci info is most intriguing. A mystery cave no less. What could Leonardo have possibly discovered in it? The fact that he wasn't explicit now leaves us with some fascinating questions for real. It wouldn't be the first time supposed time slips have occurred in caves and there's even been reports of objects trapped in some kind of star-gate in them too. Thanks Lilleyth, will certainly keep an eye out for that episode.

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Lilleyth Level 5 Commenter 6 weeks ago

Just catching up on all the hubs I want to read. I flipped to your profile page and looked for your paranormal hubs and found this one. Earlier today I watched On Demand Ancient Aliens, a program about Leonardo da Vinci (The Da Vinci Conspiracy) who is believed to have experienced a time slip of some sort. Apparently he was a very private man, however, in his private papers, they found a journal and the first entry concerned finding a mysterious cave. He wrote how he felt terrified by the darkness of the cave, on the other hand he felt a certain desire to find what was in there. The question is what did he find in the cave. We can assume that this was a significant event because he wrote it down, one of the few biographical notes. There are a couple years of his life missing.

If you haven't watched it was very interesting.

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Mark, thank you my brother and I wish I could tell just how right you are about the build-ups and situations that have happened prior to many of the experiences. Your a diligent and discerning investigator so it's no surprise you would have heard about the Celtic and Amerindian extra perceptions to the supernormal. Personally it's about half Celtic and half Teuton with a little Native American from a great-grans. But some of those that are truly half and half are supposedly capable of some pretty amazing things in the psychic area. All the best to you too Mark, seen your newest and will check it out tonight my London friend.

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markbennis Level 6 Commenter 2 months ago

Fascinating experience Alastar and its amazing to note that those that have had profound experiences such as yours do quite often have many other closely aligned experiences that seem to build them up to those big ones.

I have also heard much truth that there is a very powerful sensitivity in the Celtics and Native American DNA, to supernatural experiences too.

All the best friend, voted up all the way TC.

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Thank you kindly Gail. You've got an open mind and the good sense and intelligence to know of what you speak concerning the paranormal. Continue to be surprised here, though I shouldn't be, on the number of synchronicities occurring on HP and elsewhere. Like right before I saw your post I was thinking about reading your latest hub on Tybee Island!

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Happyboomernurse Level 8 Commenter 2 months ago

Absolutely fascinating hub and I love how you seamlessly wove literature and TV shows into the narrative.

I'm one who believes paranormal experiences are real. There's much we don't understand about them but the fact that they exist is not something I question.

Voted up, useful, awesome and interesting.

Am going over to read the Liverpool Time Slips.

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That is one amazing photo your sister took and I would love to see some more MT. The story behind them leaves me near speechless but very uplifted. Yes they have been happening as far back as the first writings in ancient history and before that with the cave art. And your oh so right in never having any doubts about sharing your experiences Minnetonka.:)

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Minnetonka Twin Level 7 Commenter 2 months ago

Woe Alastar-Very interesting hub on some para-normal experiences between you and your sister. You are aware that I'm a believer as I just saw you commented on my hub about an apparition of my mother. I think these events have happened for centuries but maybe we are more willing to admit them in this day in age. I know I have no worries about sharing my para-normal experiences. This was really fun to read and I hit many buttons and shared it. Too good not to share :-)

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Hi there Sannel! Yes indeed, there are no set ages when things of this nature can occur. For some, event[s] start in childhood and later in life for others. It is often remarked in the literature that a head injury or blow activates the ability to perceive the paranormal. Same for an electrical accident or injury. These are just some possible ways of course. Ha ha Sannel, you'll never have to preach to the choir here let me assure you. Tell your sister to stop thinking/worrying about it and then who knows what may happen. Thanks for the share and great comment, Skoal Sannel!

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SanneL 2 months ago

Alastar - These stories of yours are quite extraordinaire! The "shape-shifters, trickster spirits and skin-walkers hub" was scary and freaky. This story was intriguing and fascinating! Well I have neither Celtic or Native American blood in my veins, but it seems I have the ability to pick up on extraordinary phenomena anyway. The strange thing is, I never had this ability as a child or young woman, but it started to appear later in life. Alastar, it looks like you have the gift of seeing things others can't. The things you have experienced are very powerful. I see it as a gift, because it truly is I think. I definitely believe there are spirits all around us all the time! My elder sister is frustrated because she's not able to pick-up on the things, or feel the presence, I experience in her house. And no, I have neither drunk, smoked or inhaled anything out of the ordinary at the time! He!He! Always a great pleasure to read your work my friend!

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Well thank you again sgbrown, how very kind of you to post on your FB. The sharings my pleasure and I do hope your sister finds this unusal field excursion interesting.:)

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sgbrown Level 7 Commenter 2 months ago

This is an amazing story! I truly enjoyed reading it. Thank you for sharing your story with us. Up and awesome. I will be sharing on my FB page as my sister-in-law in very interesting in the paranormal. Have a great day! :)

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Hi Canook. Just published one. It'd be a good campfire story for you to read to the group this summer. Goosebumps!~Tarheel

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angie ashbourne Level 4 Commenter 2 months ago

Hi! Tarheel Just want to say Hi! I have been looking for your next story :-) Canook

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Dream premonitions are quite interesting and with yours actually coming true a year or two on is no surprise suzette. If our unconscious minds are connected to a matrix-like fine matter field that permeates throughout creation it would go far in explaining prescient dreams like you have. From what I read science is getting close to confirming this as fact if it hasn't non-publically done so already. Thanks suzette, I'd be fascinated to hear about some of those dreams what came to pass.

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suzettenaples Level 7 Commenter 2 months ago

What an interesting and fascinating story! I have never had a paranormal experience, but I have had premonition dreams. I will dream something that will actually happen to me in the future. At the time I dream it, I don't understand the dream and then soon, usually within a year or two, I actually experience the dream. It is uncanny.

I would document these occurences you have. Perhaps it will help you to figure out who these apparitions are and why they visit you.

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Good to meet you James and thanks for reading and commenting here. I'll visit your blog soon to see what you've written on your paranormal experiences. Working on one now that is quite chilling in it's implications. The idea for it actually came from a post on HP. So far as the cabin goes it may have been there but on the next foray into the fields it was no where in sight so who knows. It can be a strange world indeed.

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JamesPoppell Level 4 Commenter 2 months ago

What a fantastic and chilling tale. I have had my experiences with the paranormal as it relates to strange noises heard and things that go bump in the night, but I have never experienced full body apparitions like what you and your sister have experienced. What further intrigued me was the cabin that was no longer there. What a strange sequence of events. This is a much deserved vote up and a tweet to all my twitter followers. Thank you for SHARING.

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Hey bro I don't converse with dogs in green hats ha ha! You got two comments- one on here and one on gadgets. Give ya a third one on the morrow! Peace.:)

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gg.zaino Level 2 Commenter 3 months ago

HEY DUDE- WHERE THE HELL IS THE COMMENT I WAS PROMISED:

PEACE REB

GREG :)

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Almost from the day we were born it's been whispered in our ears that materialism is the way it is and our consciousness is just a by product of the brain. AEvans thanks for checking this one out and the very fine comment. I'm with you 100% in your beliefs. Here's a paraphrased quote from Maria Rilke: "That is at bottom the only courage for the most strange, the most singular and the most inexplicable that we may encounter. That mankind has done life endless harm by attacking paranormal experiences, the spirit world, death, all those things that are so closely akin to us, have by daily parrying been so crowded out of life that the senses with which we could have grasped them are atrophied." Thank God that's beginning to change.

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AEvans Level 7 Commenter 3 months ago

Sitting all alone right now, that gave me the chills. I have had experiences and people sometimes believe I am nuts. I know that spirits walk this Earth our minds do not create those figments, they are real. There is a reason they still roam and it is something that many will not understand. Thumbs Up! :)

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I remember reading that poem Greg and thinking it was one of the best supernatural experience ones I'd ever seen. Agree with your thoughts on the subject whole-heartedly. Thanks amigo, its so very fine to see you back in action on the hubs.

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gg.zaino Level 2 Commenter 3 months ago

Hey Alastar- enjoyed this mucho grande muchachos!

hoped to come by sooner but was sidetracked by several edits on recent poems i'm submitting for publication.

this hub immediately caught my eye. i believe!

many mortals claim to have had visions or experiences that cannot be explained away-

there is too much evidence that should not be brushed aside by skeptics- as nonsense and wishful thinking.

the poem i wrote on that concurrence lasting three nights a few years back had me intrigued as well as a bit frightened.

three days where i thought perhaps i was losing hold on reality-

i see many new titles here- your always interesting examination and look backwards are written in scholarly fashion Alastar- the writes on the revolutionary war in the south will be sure to tickle my fancy.

again, well written mi amigo-

peace brother

greg

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Good to see you up and at 'em again Lady T. They're some very nasty stomach bugs going on around here right now. Yes, it was definitely one heck of an experience. Is it possible people still lived in something like that cabin and dressed like that back then, maybe, but I sure hadn't seen it before. Thanks Lady T, very glad your feeling better.:)

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Lady_Tenaz Level 5 Commenter 3 months ago

Just had to stop by and read this. Very interesting my friend and well written. You sure had one heck of an experience. :-)

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Hi Kitty, thank you my friend. Yes, we both have had unusual experiences haven't we. Saw one of your hubs the other day where you had something extraordinary happen and have it marked to read tomorrow. Want to check out your latest today. That's some awesome heritage you've got Kitty; it reminds me of the time was researching a story about Charleston SC and being surprised a bit about all the emigrants from different countries that originally came through there. As far as the possible timeslip goes, it may have from that time and place and it may have been one of the things you say; at any rate it was very strange and never forgotten.

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kittythedreamer Level 7 Commenter 3 months ago

AP - AWESOME story, friend! I read the entire thing and couldn't stop. You have definitely had some paranormal experiences, and I sort of agree with your theory on Native Americans and Celtic descent having more of a sensitivity to these things...I have French, Irish, German, and Dutch bloodlines, which all may very well have Celtic blood dating back. I've never experienced anything like this (time slips), but it is sure intriguing to know what you saw! I believe maybe you did experience a slip in time...or possibly saw residual energy of that place? Voted up and awesome.

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Okay Jackie, I'll take a better look around. Could be, it is pretty warm. Definitely do a hub on it with photos.

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Jackie Lynnley Level 7 Commenter 3 months ago

Well I am not real sure. One could be Camilla which will bloom even around Christmas (but their blooms are just coming and open big on one tree and huge buds starting on another) but some are trees I know are only summer trees. I have pictures. Might do a short hub. Oh but that smell...I could have curled up like my cat and went to sleep it was so heavenly! It was hard to walk away! Maybe you should go out and take a better look around!

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Uh uh Jackie. You don't think the bushes entered a timeslip and went to Spring do you lol. It has been a little warmer this winter but if you've got budding outdoor plants in January I'd say somethings out of whack. What kind of flora have you seen budding?

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Jackie Lynnley Level 7 Commenter 3 months ago

Is anything blooming where you are? They are here and buds on everything. Came across one bush that smelled so good with blooms on the ground under it and it was about 65 or higher. I hope a surprise doesn't kill it all....

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Terri that is an incredibly awesome story. If time is in a circle then it makes perfect sense you were fortunate enough to witness a scene from the past there at the cemetery. Besides the funerals themselves what else could possibly cause a strong imprint on the surroundings but the picnics you describe. There's a famous case from England about a man who saw Roman Legionaries walking through a wall and low and behold if researchers didn't discover something the man couldn't have known; turned out it was the exact spot an ancient Roman road once followed. Terri thank you for this super comment n all, its good to see you back and healthy my friend!

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Terri Meredith Level 4 Commenter 3 months ago

As always, you rock at telling a story! Your story reminded me of one of my own incidents. I used to visit cemeteries to transcribe the headstones for putting on the internet to help those doing genealogy research. One afternoon I was sort of just taking a lazy break and enjoying the warm October sun, when I noticed a woman walking quietly with her hands sort of folded together and hanging in front of her as she made her way slowly along a dirt path at the side of the cemetery. I did a double-take because she was dressed in a white blouse with high neck and mutton sleeves and her skirt was long and dark, hanging to the ground. She had a "Gibson Girl" type hair style. I quickly looked around for my son who had accompanied me, hoping to see if he was seeing what I was seeing. When I looked around, for a brief few seconds I saw people in similar old fashioned dress just lounging about on the grass. There seemed to be some sort of picnic going on. I turned to look in the other direction but the woman who had been walking was gone and when I turned back to the picnicking folks, they too, were gone. About an hour later, the funeral director who owned the cemetery, just happened to stop by where I was transcribing.

Mr. Ewing was about 90 then (14 years ago). He was a frequent visitor at my restaurant so we got to talking. Without any prompting from me, he launched into an explanation for his visit that sunny October Sunday. Apparently, when he was a child, he used to visit the cemetery along with the rest of his family. He explained that it was common for families of the interred to gather with a picnic at gravesites as a way of spending time with their deceased loved ones. He said the practice sort of tapered off in the 1920's or so, but his mother continued to do so until the day she herself died. So he continued the tradition by packing a sandwich and going every Sunday to visit his parents and his recently deceased brother! Guess I just happened to get a glimpse of a scene that used to be a common sight! Must be my own Cherokee and Irish genes hard at work. Great Hub as always.

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Alastar Packer Hub Author 3 months ago

Hi Cred, how goes it in paradise, warm n sunny hopefully. Yea! Thought you'd remember the Time Tunnel show; wasn't it awesome. Don't recall any specific episodes but sure do remember the tunnel and lab. That's right, Twilight Zone did have some shows on time travel and such. Great decade for tv wasn't it. Right again on not discounting the paranormal; yes, closed minds stagnate and open minds are headed for the stars someday. Thank you Cred, great to read about your tv memories and have your input here.

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Credence2 Level 7 Commenter 3 months ago

Hi, alastar, there are a lot of strange things that happen that defy explanation. If I had learned anything, it is to not discount anything. Our five senses are only good at interpreting our environment within the specification of their design. There is probably much more that we are unaware of that goes on around us than most of us might think.

Get Out of Town! You were a "Time Tunnel" fanatic? That show from Irwin Allen appeared on ABC during the Fall of 1966 and as a kid I was glued to the screen. Anything having to do with time travel always got my attention, the timelines, paradoxes, twists and turns...

You might have stepped into the twilight zone when you saw the old cabin, the women and children. Speaking of Twilight Zone, they have a lot of good time travel related stories. As always, this is a great hub Credence2

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Alastar Packer Hub Author 3 months ago

Thomas if your hairs stood up for this you shoulda heard what I heard last night bro. Truly cautious about going to deep with it but lets just say a group of specialists do a secret ceremony-particularly out west- that transforms a person so to speak. Few know of this and even fewer are ever invited to witness. Those that have say its simply horrific. Back to the hub, your right, lot of history around and the scene could have been taken right of reconstruction or a bit later. Its unlikely will ever know for sure if it was present day or something else but there it is. Thank you Thomas, be looking for that Wizard of Reno's next adventure.

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Lyric, that is so very generous of you, do appreciate it much my friend. You know with all the programming on tv with the supernatural reality shows and series like on the History and Sci-fy channels, suppose one could say the paranormal is out of the closet lol. Personally feel if someone is relating an actual event as they perceived it then more power to them. You yourself are no stranger to the unusual and frightening lyric and it is so very fine to know ones not alone with their experiences. I'm in contact with some very good paranormal investigators, one of which has given some heeded advice I intend to pass on to a commenter on a another incident. lyric, thanks again for everything, your tattoo series is awesome, just come up with away to get green ink out! lol.

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Tammy I was as surprised as you to see that. It'll be just awesome if confirmation can be made on the object. Believe I read your in the mountains now and a photo match-up with Hyph- if she took one- would be very exciting. She's dealing with the aftermath of a bad tornado right now but should be back up and running on the site soon. Tammy thanks for checking this out and the great comment. Will certainly let you know what I find out from Ms B. if she gives permission.:)

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ThoughtSandwiches Level 7 Commenter 3 months ago

Alastar...

At several points in your outstanding narrative, the hairs on the back of my neck were firmly at attention. First when your sister met her visitor and then when you happened upon the cabin that wasn't there.

Being the history geek that I am...I like the notion of history slipping out and not being contained in the past. With the shear amount of 'notable' history that occurred in your region...there would seem many opportunities for it to do so!

Thanks my Friend!

Thomas

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thelyricwriter Level 8 Commenter 3 months ago

Voted up, awesome, useful, and interesting. Alastar, your truly a gifted writer. Very professional, just in case I never said that to you. Amazing job. I applaud your courage to speak out about all your experiences likes you do. I know it is not easy as I have had my own. One thing I have learned from having a few myself is my ability to pick up on when they are around. I am sure you understand. I have no doubt what you have experienced through your childhood and as an adult is paranormal. Of course you have to be careful, but perhaps you should investigate further or ask a team to do it for you. Just know you are not alone my friend. i believe you 100%. Amazing story and evidence. Hope your doing well and hope you have a great day!

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tammyswallow Level 8 Commenter 3 months ago

I was reading this fascinating piece and noticed Hyphenbird's comment. Did you say UFO in Hickory??? Did you see this on the 23rd? We need to talk and compare photos!!

Alastar, this is absolutley fascinating. I am not a scientist either, but I do know that there are so many things going on that our human brains can't process or understand. I hope you will write a book of your discoveries and experiences. Well done!

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Hi there in Portugal algarveview. Want to get over and check out your monuments hub today. Yes, an explanation would be nice. An explanation on something like why do objects like tree limbs become embedded in steel beams and such during powerful tornadoes on occasion. Solve that and one has solved time slips/travel. And like Hubber Seeker7 pointed out, the lady specter has all the earmarks of a Scottish/Irish Banshee. Thanks for the read and comment algarveview; goosebumps absolutely.

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algarveview Level 4 Commenter 3 months ago

Hi, Alastar, very interesting. I had already checked out Nell's hub on the subject, which I find fascinating. It is all very weird and I wish we could find an explanation. The unknown is very frustating for me. Goosebumps all over while I read your description and also the description of your sister's experience. Great hub.

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Hi Tina. Is it as cold in Sweden as it is here, probably colder, right. Tina your spot on, some people seem to be more sensitive to the paranormal. Another thing is these experiences often happen when people are not expecting anything to happen. Not always of course, but it does seem to a surprise, or shock, more often than not. It no doubt can be frustrating when friends sincerely perceive what you've described in the house and then not being able to pick-up on the same. Another point in my experience is whatever the phenomena are they appear able to pick and choose who and what they reveal themselves to. So, my intuition tells me as you go on not believing your able to perceive whatever it is, there will come a day when you will, unexpectedly. Very glad you enjoyed this and you know I thank you. So, with that said; Skoal Tina! The Eel must swim!:)

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thougtforce Level 7 Commenter 3 months ago

It seems as some people can easier than others see or experience paranormal events! I find it very interesting but I am afraid I am totally incapable to connect with any paranormal even if it is there. I live in an old house and I have several friends telling me there is something or someone in this house. They can feel the presence of "it" or "them" and even hear steps and such. But I don't feel a thing and I dont hear anything either, except the wind or the creaking from an old house. As far as I am concerned, here is no one besides me and my family.

But I trust my friends also so there is probably something here even if I am unable to feel it.

You seem to have the gift to experience time-slip and you did a great job telling about it. I think it is fascinating and enjoyed reading your article very much!! Thanks Alastar for another fabulous hub!

Tina

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Alastar Packer Hub Author 3 months ago

Phyllis my friend, do appreciate the excellent explanation on the Winchester Mystery House. It's a fascinating story and one of the world's strangest houses for sure. The question might be was Mrs. Winchester hoodwinked by the proclaimed medium or was the lady truly in contact with the perceived victims of her husband's inventions? In any case would love to visit it someday. Phyllis thank you for the very kind words as concerns the writing. Being as familiar with the history and even experiencing the place maybe you should be the one to write something more on it here at HPs. I'm sure many would find it intriguing reading.:)

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Nurse Mar there are few things as delightful as the adventures of Kylie and friends. And thank goodness for the luxury of experiencing your amazing life with its hard-earned wisdom. Thank you for reading and replying here. As far as your tendencies and beliefs towards the unknown source of events that can happen to people its no surprise from one such as yourself dear friend.:)

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Phyllis Doyle Level 6 Commenter 3 months ago

Hi Alastar. You are mostly correct on the Winchester House story. It was Sarah Winchester who built the house (or had it built). After Winchester died, Sarah inherited a fortune and turned to psychics and mediums in her loneliness and depression.

She was told that the spirits of the people shot down by her husband's rifles were bitter and lost and vengeful and she must do something to keep them from harming her. A medium had told Sarah that William's spirit would guide her and that she take her fortune, move west, "follow the sunset" and find a place for the angry spirits to abide.

So Sarah moved west, to California. She was told by "William's spirit" that she would know when she found the right place. The medium told her she must build a home for herself and the spirits that had fallen from the rifles.

In 1884, Sarah found herself in the Santa Clara Valley. There was a home under construction, by a Doctor Caldwell. The house had six rooms. Sarah convinced Dr. Caldwell to sell it to her. From that moment till her death, Sarah made her home there and never stopped adding to the small house, which over the years had become the enormous mansion that still stands in all it's mystery, giving the fallen spirits room to roam.

It was not a sense of humour that drove Sarah to build the mysterious house, it was one of survival. She believed that as long as she kept building she would live and eventually make things right for the spirits that her husband's rifles took down. It is now a California Historical Landmark.

Ghostly tales are still told around the hearths today of the spirits haunting the house. One lost soul, a man dressed like a cowboy, roams the hallways, looking for a way out.

Sarah Lockwood Winchester died alone in her bedroom September 4, 1922, after retiring from conferring with spirits in the seance room.

I have been there many times and I love the big old mansion. I think you would, too. If you ever do get there, I hope you write about it, for I love reading your hubs, you are a wonderfully gifted writer.

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marcoujor Level 8 Commenter 3 months ago

Dear Alastar,

It is wonderful to have the luxury of reading one of my favorite people/ writers. I have long believed in the power and possibility of paranormal experiences ... and your (and Ann's) experiences are fascinatingly descriptive. Thank you for allowing us into this part of your life ... voted UP & Awesome!

Hope you are having a peaceful weekend. Hugs, Nurse mar.

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Peggy thank you so very much for sharing you and your mother's experience here. Fascinating and quite intriguing. Let me ask this: at the time of the vision would Maggie's child have been about the age of the young girl seen? There may also be a connection with what both of you were thinking at the time too. I'm going to ponder on this awhile and maybe come up with some possibilities. The Catholic priest was wrong. How sorrowful it is that one persons decision can make or break a child's life. Appreciate this Peggy.:)

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Peggy W Level 8 Commenter 4 months ago

Hi Alastar,

One time my mother and I experienced the same EXACT thing at the same time. Suddenly in the room with us was a young Hispanic looking girl seated and looking calm and happy. We had been wondering about a child and what had happened to her. Her mother was a live-in maid at my parents house and went back to Mexico taking little Maggie with her. She would not have been treated well as she came from an unwed mother (the maid). Supposedly the maid had been raped by a former boss...at least that was the story. My parents would have adopted her but the answer was no due to intervention from a Catholic priest in Mexico that thought that she should stay with her mother. The man that the maid was living with supposedly did not like the child and schooling was not free in Mexico...so undoubtedly Maggie would have had a very tough life. My parents loved her just like a grandchild and would have given her a great life.

Enough years would have passed and we assumed from our apparition that she was probably in the next life and wanted us to know that she was OK. At least that is the only explanation that we could come up with at the time.

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Thanks Spirit, lucid dream time there with the music. You actually saw the Time Tunnel in England back then, wow, what do you know. Appreciate about the book, I'll check Amazon for it. Pretty sure faithful daughters missing time wasn't a black-out; and quality girl was actually driving a car when hers happened. More mysteries there for sure. Thank you Dixie.

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Spirit Whisperer Level 6 Commenter 4 months ago

Hi Alastar, another great hub telling a riveting story. Whenever I read your tales of the supernatural I remember this music and the tales I loved watching from the series: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQKiIyFtuBE

I also loved The Time Tunnel and longed for the opportunity to travel in time as they did.

After reading this hub I also think that you would thoroughly enjoy the book The Dissappearance of the Universe by Gary Renard. He describes his meetings with two people who just suddenly appeared in his living room one day. It is a fascinating read.

I looked for the comments as you requested but could not find one by quality girl. The other one however, by faithful daughter is troubling in that she could have had a black out and should have that checked out by her doctor first.

Thank you Dixie and keep them coming!

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Alastar Packer Hub Author 4 months ago

Many mysteries in this world yet, so very true; thank you for checking these experiences out Mike. As I wrote here, no definitive claim is made; just related what happened and the effects of it. One of Einstein's most famous remarks was "For us who are convinced physicists, the distinction between past, present, and future is only an illusion, no matter how persistent." Lord be it for me to disagree with that genius.

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mckbirdbks Level 8 Commenter 4 months ago

Alastar what an amazing story. We really know so little about the world we live in. This story coming from a 'down-to-earth' person like yourself makes the story ever more curious.

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Eddy I had a bit of hard time figuring out how to write about this experience but once started it was alright. Kinda like jumping in the cool water and then it warms up pretty quick. Thank you Eddy, up, up, and away we go!

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Alastar Packer Hub Author 4 months ago

Mr Epi your plaudits are always so encouraging and appreciated. Always an honor to have one go on the Epi-man's FB too. Night Shift is the perfect time for an otherworldly experience if there ever was one; and its good to know you always come through yours in top form sir!

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Eiddwen 4 months ago

Wow my friend how brilliant is this one??? I won't reply because the number of comments do that for me.

Every single one of your hubs are interesting;awesome and so well presented.

We can't ask for much more can we and this one is no exception.

So I think another up up and away is in order for you my friend.

Take care and enjoy your day.

Eddy.

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epigramman 4 months ago

...wow Mister Packer you are freaking me out and I love it - and this world class piece of writing because that is your middle name Alastar WORLD CLASS Packer will appear on my Facebook page with a direct link back here as I waltz out the door now at lake erie time 9:00pm for an otherworldly experience of my own otherwise known as night shift.

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Alastar Packer Hub Author 4 months ago

Phyllis I'm familiar with the Winchester Mystery House some and would love to visit the place. The Winchester repeating rifle was a paradigm shaker when it came out in the 1870s. it made killing a whole lot faster and deadly, for man and beast. The house was built the way it was because Winchester himself was being haunted by the victims of his inventions. His wife continued the strange passage ways and dead ends to confuse these vengeful spirits. When the money ran out is when the workmen put down there tools and not before. If any thing here is incorrect let me know Phyllis. thanks for the wonderful comment and yes, other realms can be cool reading.:)

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Alastar Packer Hub Author 4 months ago

Hi Hyph. Three hours disappearing is a long time- amazing.The comments bare out this may not be all that rare an occurrence either. We've heard of the 'alien abduction ' missing time a lot be this appears to be something different. Hyph, thank you for sharing all this, I want to talk with you later on the sighting if its alright. Agree with you heartily on the spiritual forces- whose to say those forces aren'twaging an unseen war at this very time- as above, so below.

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Alastar Packer Hub Author 4 months ago

Happy to share lisadpreston, thank you. I'll check out your strange mystery hub tonight. Always interested to find out what others have experienced.

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Phyllis Doyle Level 6 Commenter 4 months ago

If anyone has ever been inside the Winchester Mystery House in San Jose, California, you will understand what I am going to say.

I believe there are many realms besides the one we call reality. It is like walking into a massively huge house of mystery that has so many stairs leading to so many doors. Some of those doors lead to nowhere, others take one to places unseen before. Each place entered is different than the previous one.

You have walked through a door, Alastar, and shared with us the wonder and beauty of another place, another time.

Some doors are locked, some are too heavy to open, some are veil thin. Some places are too far to reach and some are just at the edge of our own reality where we can enter easily.

I love reading about other realms.

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Hyphenbird Level 8 Commenter 4 months ago

Hello Alastar. There are many things in this world and indeed the next one that we do not understand. I do believe two dimensions can "slip" into the other for brief moments. Perhaps that is when happened to you. I have not ever seen an apparition and hope I never do. I have had other occurrences that boggle the mind. Faithful Daughter mentioned time lapse. I have experienced that when I was praying. About 3 hours disappeared. Also one day I need to tell you about the UFO I saw in Hickory in broad daylight. Spiritual forces are at work every moment of every day. What an enlightening Hub you have here. I enjoyed the boyhood reminiscences and your descriptions. As always you entertain and make one think.

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lisadpreston Level 4 Commenter 4 months ago

Wow, freaky stuff. I am a firm believer though. I wrote of my very strange experiences in a hub. It is certainly a mystery worth delving into. Thank you for sharing.

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Alastar Packer Hub Author 4 months ago

Hi, thank you Alicia. In full sentiment with you on the reality can be strange. So far as a universally accepted explanation, that may not be long in coming- we'll see. The two articles do go together well, one a first person experience, the other 3 cases from Liverpool. Here's a fun HP story: a while back I posted a reply to one of Nell's comments and then started thinking about how hard a time I was having coming up with what to write about next; well, lo and behold it wasn't ten seconds later that Nell made another comment about how she was having a difficult time deciding what to write about next too! Coincidence? Possibly. Or is Ms. Nell a little psychic!

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AliciaC Level 7 Commenter 4 months ago

This is a fascinating hub, and it was great to read it after I read Nell's hub about time slips - the two articles fit together very well. I think that there's definitely something going on that is beyond our scientific understanding right now, but I hope it can be explained very soon. Reality is very strange!

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Alastar Packer Hub Author 4 months ago

Capital Ms. Nell, of course, thank you! Should make an excellent companion piece for the readers, well, yours for sure.:)

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Nell Rose Level 8 Commenter 4 months ago

Yes thanks Alastar, that would be great!

I will put yours on mine too, if thats okay?

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Alastar Packer Hub Author 4 months ago

Comment lines are infested with the unexplainable Canook, they most certainly are. Glad you got through Angie!~Tarheel

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Alastar Packer Hub Author 4 months ago

Drbj it is a paradox. The mainstream science of yesterday says timeslips and such can't happen. I say yesterdays science because nothing stands still forever, and from whats going on now its quite probable some new pages will be added in the science books soon; and that's not anybody speculating either.Thank you so much Drbj for the interest and great comment. Suppose when its a subjective experience a person either has faith in the person relating it, doesn't, or isn't sure. Personally tend to have faith in my fellow humans and besides, how could I not after whats been experienced at least four times and maybe six.:)

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angie ashbourne Level 4 Commenter 4 months ago

Hi! Tarheel...I think we are having a Paranormal Experience with the Comment line :-) Canook

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drbj Level 8 Commenter 4 months ago

Absolutely, positively exceptional hub, Alastar. The topic of 'time slip' and the paranormal creates a powerful paradox for me. My scientific persona insists there is NO proof of these occurences. And my creative side declares there ia NO proof that such events do NOT happen.

I have met a number of people with more than average ESP who have described episodes that appeared to carry premonitions. They are, of course, the exception. The event you described was and is very real to you but cannot, I think, be corroborated. Regardless, this has been fascinating reading and I thank you for sharing it.

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Alastar Packer Hub Author 4 months ago

Hi Canook! That prison door pic was taken inside the oldest structure in America; St Augustine's castle! You should have seen behind it Angie, very eerie and lonely feeling. Glad you liked my friend, thank you!~Tarheel

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Alastar Packer Hub Author 4 months ago

Thank you Augustine it was a bit bizarre at that. As far as Ann's specter goes, Seeker7 made the incredible observation that the timing with the grandfathers death and the appearance of the woman fits the bill for whats known as an Irish/Scottish Banshee entity. Tis a strange world we live in for real.

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angie ashbourne Level 4 Commenter 4 months ago

Hi! Tarheel Amazing Story.I like the beginning with the prison door. Vote up. Canook

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A.A. Zavala Level 7 Commenter 4 months ago

How bizarre! I beleive that there may be places, instances in which time travel is possible. Hope you find the time to share more tales.

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Alastar Packer Hub Author 4 months ago

Good to see you tonight brother pras. This your fave topic then you came to the right place. Nell's hub on this is very good, would like to link her story but haven't heard if its alright. No, your right pras, its not in the physics or science books as an established fact yet. But the Earth wasn't flat in Galileo's time either. Many respected researchers and scientists' may be near a breakthrough, maybe. some very, very interesting things to discover no doubt. Appreciate you bro pras.

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Alastar Packer Hub Author 4 months ago

Hello there in beautiful South Africa Martie. Seen the hot preview on your latest poem and will be attending shortly. Quantum physics certainly comes into play when it concerns timeslips or travel, for sure it does. Science isn't my forte but its not an unchangeable rock, especially if faster than light is ever established for certain. Very happy you enjoyed, thank you Martie!

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prasetio30 Level 8 Commenter 4 months ago

My brother, you write about my favorite topic. I love something about mysterious and strange for normal mind. Paranormal, supernatural is out of our imagination. We can't count this like a math, physic or even science. But I do believe this happen in this world. Again..you had done a great job and I give my vote to you, except funny. Have a nice day

Prasetio

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Alastar Packer Hub Author 4 months ago

Genna I believe there are logical explanations. Perhaps one way to look at paranormal occurrences is to call them 'that which science hasn't fully explained yet.' No matter how advanced in knowledge we become on this Earth there will probably always be mysteries for us. Thank you Genna for sharing something about your own experience with something that was unexplainable to you. It can make a difference when an event[s] happen to a person. Genna its very good to see your interest here and if you would ever like to talk further on what happened by all means do so in whatever way you wish. As can be seen from the comments you'd have many others who would be supportive and very interested.:)

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MartieCoetser Level 8 Commenter 4 months ago

Alastar, this is so interesting! And, as always, excellent writing. The Time Slip/Travel theory does make sense.

I am a bit stuck in theories concerning the capacity and potential power of the brain, and in quantum physics, or whatever I understand of it.

I enjoyed the read tremendously. Thank you so much for sharing this with your readers :)

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Genna East Level 6 Commenter 4 months ago

I never used to believe is such occurrences, having thought for years that there were always logical explanations. That is, until I had my own experience about 8 years ago, and spent the next year trying to talk myself out of it. None of my rationalizations worked, however, because it actually happened.

There is so much we don’t know; perhaps never will know until we “cross over,” so to speak. I found your hub to be fascinating! :-)

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Alastar Packer Hub Author 4 months ago

Hi Phyllis! Very nice to see you ma'am. Phyllis, I walked by the cabin, lady and children pretty fast. At first my sight took in the children playing and the cabin and then there was the young woman on a long log or big tree branch- she's the object i got the best look at. The cabin was like those you see in old photos of around the late 19th century or maybe on into the early 20th. As far as going back we moved not long after and I don't remember going back at anytime- except for a few years ago briefly. Oh, thats wonderful to hear about your heritage Phyllis! Maybe we're from the same clan somewhere down the road. You say you believe, is that just a belief or could there be something else? In any case thank you so much for your interest and warm comment Phyllis.:)

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Alastar Packer Hub Author 4 months ago

A lot of Highland Scots in history do seem to have had that "second sight" don't they though Seeker. Yes, I recall you do have a triple whammy of Celt! Could be DNA, could be just more open to it, your right. Oh my, now that you mention the Irish/Scottish Banshees thats exactly what she describes her appearance like- and she first...wait, I'm going to have to double check and see if it was just before he died or had already. Very interesting there Seeker! I told her i thought she came to her because she was the most receptive.

To be perfectly frank about the cabin and people I don't know for sure, but even back then I hadn't ever seen anything like that cabin with folks living in it or the strange clothes the presumed mother was wearing. A lot of people still lived the old ways back then but,..it was just very out of place. That is quite intriguing about how she saw me, it was the kind of smile you don't see every day in that it was extra warm if you know what i mean. Even though I returned to the meadows it was never seen agin although i never made it a point to look for it. Maybe it was a timeslip, maybe not. Whatever it was it definitely made an impression thats never been forgotten. Seeker, thanks a mil for your comment, you sure have brought up some new perspectives on it.:)

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Alastar Packer Hub Author 4 months ago

Hey thank you Frank! Inspiration, education, entertainment. Well, after we get the education outta the way lets keep inspired and have fun while we're doing it! Appreciate you my friend.:)

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Alastar Packer Hub Author 4 months ago

Yeah Polly, like poetvix and CM said it does seem to be of interest on HP at the moment. Nell's got a great hub on those Liverpool occurrences. Hmm, I see what you mean about looking back at ourselves as children; is anyone at say 50, the exact same person they were at 20? Besides the sub-conscious there are many theories or beliefs about where everything a persons done is stored. If not mistaken Carl Sagan once espoused that the universe would eventually enfold on itself and everything that had been would repeat , or something like that. Wish I could answer better for you Polly, thanks for reading and the intriguing comment.:)

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Alastar Packer Hub Author 4 months ago

My pleasure Faithful, thank you for checking it out and commenting. That is very baffling with the missing time like that. We'll assume all the clocks were correct, so what did you do those two hours is the question, and what exactly happened to cause it. You know quality girl in the previous comments had the same event happen while driving her car. The only thing I can think of to possibly do is try regressive hypnosis, if that's the right term for it. Faithful thank you for sharing that and it just goes to prove we can and do experience events we just don't fully understand yet.:)

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Phyllis Doyle Level 6 Commenter 4 months ago

Alastar, this is an intriguing and very interesting story. I would love to know more about that woman and the cabin. I am always so drawn to old cabins and have always wanted to live in a simple little old cabin. Have you or your sister ever been back to that area?

PS: I, too, have celtic heritage and a strong affinity to some Native American tribes: Lakhota, Hopi, and Pacific Northwest tribes. So, yes, I do believe in these 'paranormal' experiences.

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Seeker7 Level 8 Commenter 4 months ago

Alastar! This has a 'wow' factor of 100 out of 100! What a fascinating - but, yes, scary experience to have!

I do agree firstly with certain cultures being more open to the paranormal than perhaps others. Native American culture is certainly one as is the Celtic culture. I think I've said before to you, that I have predominantly Scots, but also Irish and Welsh in my family tree, so it's like 3 doses of Celts! It may be DNA or maybe that we are just more tuned into the unseen and accept it without fighting it too much?

What a very scary thing for Ann your sister. The first thing that struck me about her experience was how similar it is to the Irish/Scottish Banshee. I know they are so suppose to wail and cry, but maybe you do get quieter ones. The description - female and a bit bedraggled - does sit well with many descriptions of the Banshee. On the other hand it might have been someone from her husband's family from the far past, especially as the clothes were old fashioned. This spirit/banshee was certainly trying to give a message across to Ann and the death of the grandfather seems the obvious one.

Your experience is awesome! It could well be a timeslip as I don't think that spirits are capable of manifesting to such a degree - with cabin and all. It is interesting though that the lady/mother you met was not phased at all by seeing you? As she smiled warmly, she was obviously very welcoming and very comfortable with your presence. If it was a time-slip, I wonder if she saw you as a spirit? Many African and Caribean cultures are also very tuned into the spiritual and accept paranormal events as normal, so perhaps it wouldn't have bothered her seeing you?

I also found it interesting that you were light-headed and tense. Other accounts I've read of time-slips, people have said that they have also experienced curious sensations just prior to the event. Tingling and a feeling of massive, but temporary depression, and headaches have all been reported. This is really interesting because it adds a physical factor into the equation, rather than the whole episode being viewed as simply subjective.

A wonderful hub and a fascinating read. I loved this! Voted up + awesome!

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Alastar Packer Hub Author 4 months ago

Femme I believe she was asked that and there wasn't anyone she or the husband had seen before in any family photos. Its been about 15 years ago and she's no longer married to him so don't believe theres any contact between them now. But that's a good idea. Now that would be nice to havea look at the plats or records from back then on those fields. It was so long ago though and a fair piece from where I am now. Maybe in future, with the time on hand it would be something to pursue. Thanks Angelia, I'm still wondering on the mist pics!

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Frank Atanacio Level 8 Commenter 4 months ago

Alastar your hubs are amazing they are simply from Inspiration to education to entertainment not too many hubbers can fit this bill :) Frank

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Pollyannalana 4 months ago

Wow everyone seems to be into this lately. As I mentioned to Nell though, what I find strange is when we look back at our youth or childhood I suppose everyone is as me and sees themselves, I mean you are not in your body reliving (although I can do that when I am writing) but we are looking at ourselves as we were. Isn't that odd? How could we possibly picture ourselves now if we couldn't then? Are we still there, is everything in memory and continual in a spirit form?

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Faithful Daughter Level 5 Commenter 4 months ago

That was a very scary phenomenon you experienced. Thanks for sharing.

I've had my share of scary things happen in my lifetime. I don't know if this story would fit into that time slip/travel, but I had something happen to me about twenty years ago with missing time. I remember while I was doing my laundry, I took a quick look at my clock as I headed towards my laundry room. I had just loaded my second wash into the washing machine, and began removing the previous load from the dryer. The whole task shouldn't have taken me more than 10-15 minutes, however, when I came back to my bedroom and looked at the clock, two hours of my time were missing. I froze, retracing all I did and to my recollection, I had only loaded one wash, and removed the other. Where did my two hours go? This still baffles me today.

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femmeflashpoint Level 7 Commenter 4 months ago

Alastar,

Fascinating - which is the norm with your articles. :)

I'm wondering about your sister's visitor, if there could have been any old photos she might have been able to get hold of, to see if she recognized anyone in them.

And regarding your cabin encounter, do you think there might be any records of landowners with a description of where and what type of edifices might have been built on it, and what it was used for?

I knew better than to read your work at the end of a shift. I'll be awake for hours wondering about it, lol.

femme

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Alastar Packer Hub Author 4 months ago

That is scary and quite intriguing quality girl. Hard to know what to make of it except possibly your conscious mind just blanked the memory out for some reason but continued to function; or maybe you were unconscious and something else took over. Sleep driving is something to definitely find out about, haven't really seen anything on it before. Thank you quality, but there are others with far more extensive and important gifts- if that's the right word for it, and in some cases i guess one could say it is- to tell about than myself.:)

quality girl 4 months ago

very interesting hub-I think you may be on to something that really does occur. my story is very different-I was on my way home from a long day of hard work and was driving late at night. My house my about 20+miles from work-all I know is that I was one place one minute, then the next thing I knew I was almost home and didn't remember driving that far already-scary huh-I hate to think I was sleep driving-who knows--but that is very different from your story and I really do believe some people have the ability to see past and future events. From the hubs you have written I think maybe you have some kind of gift!

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Alastar Packer Hub Author 4 months ago

Thank you CM. The subject does appear to be a popular one lately. Agree with you CM on time not being a linear process. From what I gather its in a circle. Much to learn there, yes indeed. Some researchers think at the moment atoms exceed the speed of light( the neutrinos are interesting) they flip over from space-time to time-space- another dimension, or something to that effect. As far as writing on paranormal experiences go, truth, whatever it consists of, is a powerful backing force. In a subjective experience, its really up to the reader to take it however they wish. CM, you keep on doing your work in the forums: sticks and stones......:)

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Alastar Packer Hub Author 4 months ago

poetvix, I've been on HP for a year now and i must say the synchronization's seem to be occurring more and more on the site. What may be happening is events are spiraling faster and faster in the space-time vortex; in other words what once took a hundred years to manifest now takes weeks or months. Don't really know the physics of it but thats what I've read from several respected researchers and such. I don't think its a tear in space-time as much as a natural occurrence kind of event. A lot there to ponder for sure. Great to see your interest and awesome comment poetvix.:)

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CMHypno Level 6 Commenter 4 months ago

Great hub as usual Alastar. Time slips seem to be a popular theme on HP this week. I do believe that time is not necessarily the linear process that we live our lives by, and that there are many things that we still need to learn. But maybe there is another explanation, maybe it is slipping into a parallel universe rather than a different time? I think that it is very brave of you to write about your personal paranormal experiences even on such a supportive place as HP, as on the few occasions I have mentioned that I work as a spiritual medium in the forums, I have been called some very choice names!

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poetvix Level 7 Commenter 4 months ago

Totally intriguing. I read Nell's hub on this topic earlier tonight. Synchronicity? I have to wonder if this is occurring with a greater rate of frequency over the last few centuries. There are so many theories out now about how there will be a dimensional shift and things will polarize and change, this kind of fits in with that in a way. Maybe like a tear in the fabric of the space-time continuum? Just a thought. Fascinating hub!

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Alastar Packer Hub Author 4 months ago

Thank you ziyena. Welcome to the HP!

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Alastar Packer Hub Author 4 months ago

Thank you Nell. When I finished the story there was originally several hubbers mentioned that had written of their unusual occurrences on some of the other paranormal experience hubs. Your name was one of them. But I got to wondering if anyone for some reason might not want their name here so they were deleted. Is it alright if i leave a link at the end of this to your Time Slips on Bond Street hub? Think it would make a great addition for the readers. Thats right, back then there really wasn't any context to put it in. Must have been around 1970 or 71 Nell. Triple tack my lady.

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Nell Rose Level 8 Commenter 4 months ago

Hi, Wow! sounds like you know just what I was talking about then! isn't it strange? the person who finds themselves in this situation thinks its normal at the time, but then something seems to make them realise that theres something not quite right, as in your case, I wonder what year it was? amazing story, thanks!

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ziyena Level 3 Commenter 4 months ago

Nice Hub!

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